C2k Help
Non-C2k Issues => Legacy Networks => Topic started by: Aaron on February 20, 2009, 11:10:46 AM
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Just wanted to ask around really who still has a legacy network in there school, what server is used and workstations and is it used alot? or is it now that everyone has moved on to c2k and done away with there old networks.
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We're completely C2k.
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was that by choice ?? or would you have liked to have kept a legacy network
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Completely C2k here as well for better or worse
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We still have a legacy network of about 50 machines running vanilla XP. 95% of my time is spent dealing with C2K issues, legacy network runs very well, although probably not used as much as the C2k system.
We're due a new school, I don't know what way they'll jump - I know our Technology department would like their own system, as would Science and Music. Storage space and software problems have always been the issue with the C2K system, if they could sort these out it would help a great deal.
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Bill i phoned today about storage issue with pupils as i dont think 50mb is enough now maybe for 1-3rd years but def not GCSE
and A Level pupils but at the min the only way around that is to buy another server and get the extra space that way.
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31 Macs including MacBooks. 1 Xserver 2.8GHz Quad core, 1 7TB Xserve Raid, a number of Airport Extreme and another smaller raid I cant remember the size of.
Basically we did keep the legacy system running but it ended up not being used due to no hardware updates, so when moving image arts reared it's head my HoD decided to chuck out the old machines and start getting macs. The problem now is that we really need to update the old 3com switches as they arent up to the traffic that MIA puts on the raid share.
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We did buy another server a couple of years ago, took them six months and dozens of phone calls to get the pupils moved round to give them more space. However, as each year group gets a different amount of space it means rejigging it all at the beginning of each school year.
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31 Macs including MacBooks. 1 Xserver 2.8GHz Quad core, 1 7TB Xserve Raid, a number of Airport Extreme and another smaller raid I cant remember the size of.
Basically we did keep the legacy system running but it ended up not being used due to no hardware updates, so when moving image arts reared it's head my HoD decided to chuck out the old machines and start getting macs. The problem now is that we really need to update the old 3com switches as they arent up to the traffic that MIA puts on the raid share.
i think i did ask this before but how exactly do you back up that 7TB?
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Well to tell you the truth we dont.
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LOL, I like your lackadaisical attitude, you can come and work here ;D
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We still use a legacy Network about 150 PCs,30 Laptops,4 Win 2003 servers This runs both Art and Music, which are totally Legacy. Science also use 30 laptops non C2k to run their programs. As ICT got 30 new PCs bought in November Last year the Legacy network is still being updated. As said once this is setup it runs pretty well. ;D
We are hoping to replace the music PCs with Macs in the summer.
The C2k network well we all know about that don't we :P
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how have you found running the macs there hasnt been any big issues with them has there??
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thats one of the reasons i am thinkin of the legacy network again jsut because its easy and cheaper to add more machines on
year after year.
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The only problem I have with the mac system is that I havent looked into bulk creation of users, which is not meant to be easy I believe.
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thats another question i had for everyone was on creation of user accounts is it a script thats used to create all the accounts
i wouldnt like to sit and go through 770 accounts for pupils to be honest.
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To get a list isn't a problem use the c2k web provisioniong and produce a report of all active pupils, it is just I havent got round to trying to bung these into a script yet.
We use the c2k usernames on the macs when generating accounts.
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At the moment the art users login to the macs as Art1, Art2 etc however music has C2k usernames as about 2 years ago I created accounts for all pupils using C2k usernames on the legacy system approx 1000 :'( (PS. I got help)
Now that that is done I only have to add approx 120 new usernames per year ;D
I would like to bring Art into the C2k usernames but they store there fies locally and I do not have the storage space and at the moment to store the files on a server, and there is no money to buy a few new NAS for extra storage.
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Keep them locally stored and tell them to always use the same mac.
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Thats what we do at the moment but if I got a gigabyte switch a few Terabytes storage and a New Mac OS X server I could have some fun. ;D
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(Sad that I would think that setting that all up would be fun) :'(
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have you found more that it is Art that get the best use out of the Macs or
do all departments prefer using them over windows. How did you find setting
the Mac network up with Mac server and OS X compared to that of XP and
Server 2003?
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We cheated and paid scotsys to set the xserve up. Here artwould use them more that other departments but that is mainly due to the fact that there are 12 networked macs in the Art Study room.
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At one stage it was talked about setting up a room of macs for Art / Music & Technology to use, have heard nothing bout it latley though.
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Srver 2008
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we have just as much legacy as we do c2k, with 5 win 2003 servers and a xserve for an MIA class of 30 imacs.
Plus canons uniflow system for the photocopiers and thats not counting laptops.
Also we will be upgrading to Win 2008 in the next few months.
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seems a few people are running this Moving Images course are art department was talking about it was just trying to get the funds together in order to get enough macs and other equipment, i am still hoping that we bring in the legacy network again
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Try putting it forward as both Art and IT, All you have to do is buy graphic tablets so Arty people can draw (wacom Bamboo fun) these tablets are great and not to dear either plus you get Adobe elements with them.
Also boot camp them with XP and IT can use them, or if IT are feeling adventurous don't boot camp an iwork site licence for a K12 school is only ?155 + ?10 for media.
Lastly if you are an integrated school with a primary school you will have access to the ELF (education learning fund)
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I had thought of brand new PC's for the school but then look at getting art Macs as both ART and MEDIA could use these, at
present media studies are already using emac's but i would like to get that changed if i could have to a room of Imac's.
but agian something like this would probably been done over a course of time never be done in one full sweap